and even george w. bush in his memoir rewritwrites he regrets pursuing it in 2005. he told some of his colleagues at the time, don't worry. this isn't the third realm of the politics anymore. >> it was. >> and it was. and the reason i went through that history is because he's back now with much bolder, more ambitious plans and he's convinced you and all of your republican colleagues to walk off the plank and vote for what democrats think is a very controversial agenda. >> oh, my. >> well, it's a very compassionate budget actually. >> i want to hear your response to this. about y but at the time that ryan put his budget out first in 2008 and then he modified it in recent years, a lot of republican pollsters are saying don't vote from this, stay away from this. and boehner, the republican minority leader at the time, made sure that republicans in the house of representatives did not embrace it in 2010. >> i did. >> you did? >> yes. >> and you ran on it? >> i did. >> and you won? >> yes. in a challenger race. >> in a challenger race. so this is a success story. >> so n